Stay Away From Those Store Credit Cards, You Bastards
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Every time I see a person sign up for a retail store credit card at the check-out line, a little part of me dies inside. I would scream “No! Don’t do it!” silently, hoping to convey my dismay telepathically. Unfortunately, it never seemed to work.
There are about sixty-seven different reasons why you shouldn’t apply for a retail store credit card, but for the sake of simplicity and my sanity, let’s just go with five:
- Shady credit lenders.
- Interest rates are ridiculously high.
- Tarnish your credit with unnecessary line of credit.
- Benefits are usually nil while penalty fees are usually in abundance.
- Some are store-only credit cards and can’t be used for purchase at other locations.
Reason #1
When you apply for a store credit card, it is usually issued by a sub-prime lender in partnership with that particular store. You may enjoy shopping at that store, they may have great customer service, but be wary to associate their credit card offering with the actual store.
Store cards like Gap Card, Banana Republic Card, etc. are issued by the infamous Monogram Credit Card Bank, an offspring of GE Money. They are notorious for their shady practices, such as magical late fees and magical finance charges even if you paid balance in full. If you don’t pay attention to the actual bank that issues the line of credit, you’ll be doing yourself a major disservice.
Reason #2
The interest rates are ridiculously high. Expect APR in the ranges of 20%-24%
“Sign-up for an IKEA card and get 15% off right now!”
Wow. 15% off the brand new dorm room set sounds like a smashin’ deal—but not if you carry a balance. Alright, no problem—all you have to do is pay in full and you’re set. Except when you deal with shady lenders like mentioned above.
“Woops, we accidentally charged you. We’ll fix that and credit your account right away.”
“Hmm? You still have those charges plus extra finance charges from the previous month? Well… okay, we can only remove one of them though.”
Reason #3
It’s one thing to build credit, it’s another thing to screw up your credit with large amount of unnecessary accounts open. The entire ordeal can be made even more confusing by the fact that sometimes closing unused accounts may end up hurting your credit score, especially if you carry large balances.
It’s very simple. Don’t have more credit cards than you have fingers (hah, yours truly is approaching the forbidden ten as we speak). A small saving at some retail store isn’t worth the amounts you’ll pay when you have trouble obtaining favorable mortgage rate in the future.
Reason #4
The benefits are usually stupid. Congratulations! You’ve spent $1,000 at Banana Republic. Here’s a $10 gift card! Oh, there’s a minimum purchase of $100.
But while the benefits are few and far in between, the penalty rate and fees are more than many regular bank issued credit card, even compare to other sub-prime lenders. Things will probably be okay if you stay vigilant, but using a credit card shouldn’t require mass paranoia—just a small dose of healthy suspicion.
Reason #5
Some of these credit cards are store-only credit cards. If you don’t see a VISA, MasterCard logo (or a Discover like the Wal-Mart card pictured above), you won’t be able to make purchase with them at other places. Not a big deal if you’re a frequent shopper at those specific stores, but when combine with all those reasons above, doesn’t it reduce the value and utility of the credit card by a bit? Why bother making purchase with a card that can potentially give you so much trouble, especially when you have other options?
Alternatives
A lot of people seem to suggest store cards to build credit with, due to their general no credit, bad credit friendliness. In my opinion, they’re to be used as a last resort in rebuilding credit. If you have no credit because you’re a student, there are many student credit cards available from nation-wide banks such as Citi, Bank of America, and numerous others. The Citi mtvU Visa Card, despite associated with the now-crappy music channel, is actually a pretty good pick for many students.
Bad credit and want to shape up? Try out local credit union, or check out Patelco Credit Union’s Visa & MasterCard. It has been noted by others with bad-credit that you should try applying via phone with Patelco to increase your chance of approval. You can also check with your bank or credit union to see if they offer secured credit cards.
Having said all that, the next time the cashier ask you if you would like to sign up for a credit card, politely tell them “No thanks, I don’t think it’s a good idea to open a line of unnecessary credit which may potentially jeopardize my credit without carefully considering the benefits.”
If you dont’ do that, you may find yourself being stared at intently by a weirdo from the next check-out isle, with his lips moving and seeming to whisper, “No… don’t do it.”
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August 15th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
Hell of a write-up.
August 15th, 2006 at 5:02 pm
No kidding. My fiance and I naively got a Sears card, and the interest rates are now killing us. Read the fine print!
August 15th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
I’ve occasionally signed up for the store cards. The 10%-15% on a $200 purchase is significant enough for me. I’ve never had a problem with the shady letters and never carry a balance. I think it’s a whole lot less scary than those that practice the credit card arbitrage.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
You are 90+% right.
My wife has a Macy’s card, and I guess that has saved us about 10-15% of 4-5 purchases, over a year (we are not impulse buyers). I would compare its benefits to getting $100 for signing up for a credit card you never use.
It’s a VISA card, but we never use it anywhere else. We always pay it in full online (you can do it in store, too). The only unexpected finance charge I noticed was some $1 once, I still don’t know why. Overall, it’s OK, as long as one pays it in full.
If one shops frequently at a store, those extra 10-15% savings can add up. However, I think that one shouldn’t have more than 1-2 store credit cards and should always pay them in full.
If you intend to apply for a big loan, get rid of store credit cards. Our Macy’s came with a separate credit account, creating an extra entry in our history. My wife’s score is around 740, even with the Macy’s card. The only hit we saw was a temporary one, due to account opening activity.
Anyway, all credit cards are only for people who have financial discipline and who read everything in their contracts (the smaller the font the more paranoid I become). It’s good to experience some before applying for bigger loans; they teach us very good lessons about financial responsibility and shady loaners.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
I meant “lenders”. :)
August 15th, 2006 at 8:21 pm
Retail cards only suck if you carry a balance.
If you pay your purchases in full, why wouldnt you use the discounts?
August 16th, 2006 at 6:46 am
It CAN be such a bad thing because they KNOW most people will fall into the trap BECAUSE of the discounts, especially the ones that give you a discount on your purchase when you sign up. But they also know that the majority of the American people can’t or won’t pay off the balance in full every month.
I just saw an advertisement for a card that give “1% cash back every month”, that is on your 18%-24% interest rate card! Sigh!
August 16th, 2006 at 11:05 am
“If you pay your purchases in full, why wouldnt you use the discounts?”
I agree. The problems begin when people:
1) Carry a balance.
2) Apply for too many cards and kill their FICO (temporarily).
3) Open the card and forget they did at all.
If you pay your balance immediately, saving 15% can be a sweet deal.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:27 am
Totally agree. I had one with Best Buy from years ago when I wasn’t as sharp on credit scores. Last year, I decided to use it again since they offered 0% interest on the purchase for 3 months. Figured why not, not applying for something new, still have it open to keep my total credit limit up and not lose that credit history. Paid it off within the 3 months, but they still charged me interest! Then after I got that settled, they apparently closed my account without telling me. Ohh well, good ridance. First and last retail card I’ll ever have.
August 17th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
You are correct. I keep trying to take away my wife’s Banana Republic card, but that is like trying to take a steak from a hungry dog.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
King of Debt,
You should switch it out with a banana. She wont miss one card, right?
August 18th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
many credit card problems will be nil if everyone just pay their balance in full, and the same goes for store cards.
the reason why I strongly discourage the use of store cards, even for those discounts, is because the points “Reader” listed above.
I’ve already mentioned the fact that opening too many cards and hurting your credit history. The reason why i didn’t mention FICO is because it can be a temporarily hit. It’s not a good thing to have too many revolving accounts (credit cards) open when it comes time to get an installment loan. Too many people forget that they’ve open these cards by the time a mortgage is being considered.
Yes, it’s not an irreversible situation, you can always close these accounts well ahead of time, but the important thing I want to point out is this:
Ideally, you should only have a handful of credit cards. Why pick these cards when there are better options out there? The initial discounts can be decent, but there are also plenty regular, prime cards out there with fairly great opening bonus (such as $100 gift cards etc.)
Ken’s story is good example, and there are plenty worse ones out there.
I guess what I’m trying to say is, pick the lesser of the two evils by going with a regular credit card.
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:16 am
I mostly agree ..
But if you’re careful, you can use it to your advantage.
I have bought all major purchases useing a new store credit card, getting the 10% discount, then paying the purchase off the next day. I then cut up the card.
easy savings ..
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:11 pm
LOOOOOOOOOVED THIS POST!!!! For so many reasons, I can tell you that I really really loooved this post. I get very annoyed (i’m being easy with the cuss words) when I’m asked, would you like to save 10% on this purchase today, etc…I HATE IT!
p.s. by the way, I called my credit card company today and REQUESTED a lower APR. And not that you’re surprised but…..they offered it to me! Yeahhhhhhhhhhh….I LOVE your site. Thanks again for all the great tips! ;)
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:12 pm
Ohhh! my former APR on my visa platinum was 9.9% and now they lowered it to 5.9%. I will be calling them next month and every month to see if I can get it lowered. I’m greedy? Of course :)
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:51 pm
Very good tips for all who are credit card addicts and discounts lovers!
It’s a matter of discipline in paying your bills on time.
I always pay more than the amount due so that it will cover the finance charge and make my balance low.
Also, its good to check your FICO once a year if you hit or miss a score. Its FREE.
sweet blog!
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:20 pm
I completely agree with this blog, but think that OLD NAVY should be added to your list of Gap & Banana Republic, since they are of the same family of stores. Young people, especially college students, tend to shop there more because they’re cheap.
My OLD NAVY account got me! The whole nine yards: high interest rates, late payment fees, overlimit fees, incorrectly posting my payments. They don’t take in-store payments, what’s up with that?!? I live in CA and the only place to send payments by mail is Florida! Then I didn’t get a bill because I moved, missed a payment, and couldn’t change my address because my account was past due. All I got was a looped recording asking me to “please enter your account number…i’m sorry i am unable to assist you, please enter your account number…” over and over again. Online was no better, I got an error message telling me I couldn’t access my account and I would need to call. They finally reached me about my past due account and I changed my address.
THEY closed my account and three months after I paid it off I received a letter saying “we incorrectly charged you interest in the past and we have now credited your account.” I called to “remind” them that they made the decision closed my account, had to speak w/the supervisor (the call center was in obviously overseas), and had them send me a check…for the WHOLE $5.12. Then she asked if I wanted to re-open my account…h*ll no!!!
They can keep their “stuff n save” bags and stuff them with something else…
August 24th, 2006 at 8:05 am
that’s hilarious!!! i definitely feel the same way…
unfortunately, i used to have to push ppl to sign up for VS cards.
December 18th, 2009 at 12:02 am
This is just too funy and very true too.., I have learned my lesson with these gimicks. And if I could turn back time would have never let these store credits mess up my credit. To all out there that has not applied listen to this highly intelligent person!!! = )