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Woops, got my Bank-to-Bank transfer service suspended.

Suspended. Just like back in high school.

Probably because of this:

According to the email, the incomplete transfer was due to insufficient fund—which made me realized that I must have tried to make the transfer from the wrong checking account. Having poor alphanumeric capability is quite a curse.

A quick phone call to the number above got me a service rep, telling me that only a “techie” can un-suspend bank-to-bank transfer, and that they’re only available at 8 AM EST.

Another call at 8:01 AM got me a different service rep, who told me that she’ll forward an inquiry to a techie, who’ll get back to me via e-mail or phone within 4 business days.

In the mean time, a friendly reminder to all who use HSBC Direct, if they ever encounter any problem with a bank-to-bank transfer, you will most likely have your bank-to-bank transfer service suspended immediately without notice. It’s all in the User Agreement.

Reinstatement shouldn’t be an issue. I hope.

In the mean time, the dinero was sent to the new Amboy Direct account instead.

Funky name ftw

Currently at 3.05% APY, Amboy Direct’s Premium Online Savings Account is another potential choice for high-yield online savings account.

Just like ING, Emigrant, and HSBC Direct, Amboy Direct features no fees and no minimums. Account opening is a breeze, rivaling ING Direct’s simplicity. You’ll need your driver license number and checking account number around when you fill out the application.

Four steps to opening an Amboy Direct account:

  1. Enter your personal information
  2. Agree to terms and condition
  3. Make an electronic deposit from an existing account
  4. Confirm and submit information

Amboy Direct account opening is fast. Really fast.

Email confirmations

  • 7/24/06 – Filled out application and submit, received email confirmation.
  • 7/26/06 – Received email notifying account has been opened.
  • 7/27/06 – Received confirmation trial deposit in checking account.
  • 7/27/06 – Initiated test transfer of $10.
  • 7/28/06 – Test transfer of $10 credited in Amboy account.

Trail deposit and initial deposit

Need To Know:

  • Minimum account opening is $1, maximum deposit of $250,000.
  • You can link the Amboy Direct account to only one external account.
  • If you close account before interest is credited, you will not receive accrued interest.
  • Premium Savings not to be confused with eSavings or Maximizer accounts.
  • Interest is compounded and credited monthly.
  • AccessID to login instead of a username, ala ING Direct.
  • You can only ACH push into Amboy Direct, but not ACH pull. To transfer money out of your Amboy Direct account, you’ll need to use the Amboy Direct website.

Website Interface:

 

 

No-frills interface

That’s the gist of it for now. Expect full review after at least a few weeks (or months) of usage to fully utilize the account. So far so good.

Update: Amboy Direct’s Premium Savings is currently 1.51%. To get the current rate, please check the official Amboy Direct website.

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As the many Emigrant Direct customer knows by now, the Emigrant Direct servers are either down, overloaded, or just want to act like their customer service reps.

While server downtimes are to be expected for any online sites, today’s site problem doesn’t look good at all—especially since Emigrant Direct has been touting the brand new interface that was to be released today.

A customer’s comment from the Fatwallet finance forum sums it up nicely:

I have far lower expectations for non-vital services or utility services devastated by storms than I do for the institutions I trust my money with. This is not a natural disaster or unexpected, simply bad IT. If you are an online bank and you’re planning an upgrade there is no excuse for your bank being offline for an entire day. Worst case scenario your planning fails and you roll back to the old site until you remedy it. Sounds harsh but you’re talking about a failure of the core of your business for a full business day. If I weren’t an IT guy myself I might feel like thats unrealistic. Ymmv.

Thanks to Bill for the notice.

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It’s the ultimate personal finance question: paper statements or electronic statements?

I’ve been debating the question since last year, and like Jonathan of MyMoneyBlog, I’ve also been trying to gradually go from paper statements to electronic statements. But, in the end, I’ve decided to stick with paper statements. It’s just too easy to ignore emails, and it’s just too much of a hassle (for me) to manually backup these data myself.

There are always incentives and offers from companies to get you to switch to online statements, usually in the form of a credit to the account. Chase’s current incentive is a pretty good one:

Tempting, but no cigar!

In this method, Chase will be the one storing the electronic statements on their server. Sure, it’s not difficult to download and backup your statements yourself (to Gmail, CDs, etc.), but having easy access to 6 years of past statement is even better.

If everyone jumps on the 6 years of statement stored online bandwagon, I would be awfully tempted to try and go paperless again.

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Call me, fish bowl security.To make our lives better, ING Direct will introduce some brand new, break-through, innovative, and state-of-the-art security feature—ala Bank of America’s SiteKey. Yay.

It probably won’t be so bad, especially if they’ll replace the current PIN key map with it.

The new security feature, ingeniously named Site Guard, is straight-forward enough to use. You choose a picture and phrase to associate with your account. When you see the picture, you’ll know that you’re at the real ING Direct site. If you see anything but the right picture and the right phrase, careful—you’re at a fake spoof site!

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It looks like Google Checkout is alive and kicking.

Direct competition to PayPal or not, it’s another alternative to simple online payment processing. Yehaw.

Here are some cool tidbits that I found as I snoop around:

Buyers:

  • If you sign up with a Citi credit card, you’ll get $5 or 1000 ThankYou points for the first time you use Google checkout. Expires 9/15/06.

Sellers:

  • A not-too-shabby price of 2% + $0.20 per transaction.
  • Currently no additional fees.
  • Earn free transaction processing if you’re an AdWords advertiser. For every $1 you spend with AdWords, you can process up to $10 of sale for free.
  • More info at the Seller section.

From Okdork.com.

So my review of HSBC Direct is fairly positive, but if you’ve actually read it and had experiences like those below, then you would think that I’m full of doggie doo-doo.

  • Savvy Saver’s problem w/ opening a joint HSBC account.
  • lpkitten’s problems w/ opening an individual HSBC account.

It seems when you have anything to deal with the words customer service and bank, results will greatly vary.

I’ve opened my account quite awhile ago, before HSBC flung out their advertising ogre, so I think I’ll update my review when I get a chance to. Perhaps like many other banks out there, they’re too busy marketing their product and not spending enough time servicing the actual product?

Nahh. That can’t possibly be it.

If you’ve stumbled onto this review because you’ve been looking at high-yield online savings account, then you must have noticed the abundance of choices and options.

HSBC Direct started offering their online savings account back in 2005 with little fanfare, but they have since become much more well known through the years.  This is an in-depth review of the HSBC Direct Online Savings Account, with screenshots of account usage and bank transfer from over three years of account ownership.

You can read the entire review from start to finish, or skip all the way to the summary for a list of pros and cons.  If you have any feedback on the HSBC Direct Online Savings Account or this review, feel free to leave a comment below.

Account Opening Process

Opening an account at HSBC Direct should be a breeze for most people. You fill in the usual personal information and type in other information requested. HSBC’s opening application distinguished itself with a few convenient features:

  1. You can save the application and finish it later
  2. Different options for linked account verification

When you open an online savings account such as HSBC Direct, you will usually have to link the savings account to an existing checking account. To verify the linked checking account, most banks will usually do a two deposit verification method. In this method, two small trial deposit will be made to your checking account, which you later verify the amounts to confirm your identity as the account owner.

One of the account verification methods is an “instant verification” process, which simply requires you to input your online account information (the login & password) of the checking account being verified. The instant verification is limited to the Yodlee online banking solution, an online banking method that most major banks utilize.

The rest of the account opening process is smooth, albeit slow. Unlike ING Direct, which allows you to open an account without waiting for any mail — a problem with many online-only-accounts from traditional bank, is that the account opening process still heavily relies on snail mail.

HSBC has the same problem, but fortunately the mails were sent within a reasonable time period. You should expect to receive six separate mail piece:

  1. Temporary login for online access
  2. Temporary password for online access
  3. Account number and ABA routing number
  4. A letter informing you that the ATM card is on its way
  5. The actual ATM card
  6. The PIN for the ATM card

You will need all of the mail above, except #4, to have full access to your account. The time frame for the mail to arrive will vary depending on your location. It took about 12 business day for me to receive all the mail from New York to California. It’s understandable that this information was sent separately, as privacy and security is important — but HSBC can probably streamline the process better & faster.

Account Access and Interface

When I first got an account at HSBC Direct, the domain HSBCdirect.com was not setup yet — in fact, it wasn’t even called HSBC Direct yet. It took a bit of digging to find out where to login to access my account. Today, all you have to do is head to HSBCdirect.com and the link for account access will be on the front page.

The first page you’ll see when you login is fairly straight forward. You will be greeted by an Account Summary page, which gives you a quick summary of your account balance as of today. Click on the left picture below to see the Account Summary page.

The Accounts Detail page is self explanatory. You will see balance information such as bank balance, available balance, last state date, year to date interest, and the last nine transactions on your account. If you wish to view previous transaction, you will have to use the transaction search function, which allows you to search through different date and amount ranges. One feature that’s lacking is a daily update of interest earned for the month. You can click on the right picture above to see the Accounts Detail page.

You can also export your account data and specific transaction date ranges into three different file formats. HSBC supports Quicken (qfx, qif) and MS Money (ofx). Your account statements can be view with the eStatements tab, which also allows you to save & print the statement in pdf format.

Online Bank to Bank Transfer

This is the meat of an online savings account, the online transfer capability. Clicking on the Bank to Bank Transfer tab will bring you to an annoying Security Key screen. In order to create a Security Key, you will need your ATM card number and its PIN number, both of which will arrive via snail mail. In another words, you won’t have full access to your account until you receive both of those mail piece. You are required to use the virtual keyboard to input your security key. HSBC requires a certain length to the security key, so it can become quite a hassle to input the key. Click on the left picture below to see the Security Key interface.

Once you have input the security key, a new window will open up with the Bank to Bank transfer feature. In this page, you can add, remove, and transfer funds between accounts. The interface is straight-forward, adding accounts requires the usual two trial deposit verification. A great thing about HSBC’s Bank to Bank transfer is that it allows an unlimited amount of accounts linked. You can add your checking, savings, and brokerage account from various financial institutions. The Bank to Bank electronic transfer service is provided by CashEdge.

Be aware that some accounts cannot be linked to the HSBC Online Savings Account, such as the ING Direct Oranges Saving Account. According to HSBC, members of the CashEdge network can exclude themselves from being linked. Apparently ING Direct excluded themselves to be linked (an understandable action to prevent easy withdrawal of account funds to their competitors). You can click on the right picture above to see the Bank to Bank Transfer interface.

Bank to Bank Transfer Speed

Up untill this point, everything about HSBC Direct is decent enough. Unfortunately, there’s no such thing as a perfect banking experience, so here’s the drawback to the HSBC Direct account — the online bank to bank transfer speed. Compare to other competitors ACH transfer speed, HSBC’s transaction speed is ridiculously slow. Through my various transfer to and from various accounts, the transaction speed of HSBC is usually slower by 1-2 days, and at times, 3 days slower. Whenever I push a transfer from another source to HSBC Direct, the deposit will show within a reasonable 1-2 business day time frame. However, if the situation is reverse, and I pull the amount from that account to HSBC, via HSBC’s Bank to Bank transfer feature, the same transaction takes an extra business day or two.

There is a great HSBC Direct transfer speed experiment that can be found over at MyMoneyBlog.com. In the experiment, Jonathan conducted various transfer through different financial institutions. The result is quite interesting and correlates with my experiences with HSBC Direct. You should definitely check out Jonathan’s post for more information.

The lowdown on the transfer speed is that HSBC is probably keeping a day or two of interest through the ACH — interest that you’re not earning. When you utilize the Bank to Bank Transfer, you should pay close attention to HSBC’s transfer schedule, and make due sure you initiate transfer before the 8 PM EST cut-off. Looking at HSBC’s transfer schedule, the best days to initiate a transfer would probably be Sunday through Tuesday.

Customer Service Functionality

You can contact customer service via the Bank Mail interface in the online account, or by calling HSBC at 1-800-975-HSBC. The call center is 24/7, although the quality and availability of support will vary depending on the time called. Your best bet for non-emergency inquiry would be the online Bank Mail feature. Response time for my test questions were within a reasonable 4-8 hours time frame. Answers provided were thankfully not robotic responses. The response to my basic question about how-to use a function was written clearly and straight-forward.

Contacting customer service via phone definitely leaves a lot to be desired. The wait time at peak business hour can be quite long (over 10 minutes) and at times, you may reach a customer service rep that’s not knowledgeable on the HSBC Direct Online Savings Account. According to Gethuman.com, the fastest way to reach a human operator at HSBC is by calling 1-800-477-6000 — press 1, 3, then 0. It would be great if HSBC eventually introduces a specific number to reach operators that specialize in HSBC Direct specifically.

Overall Account Impression

As mentioned, HSBC’s questionable ACH delays can be a big turn-off to many, but in my opinion it isn’t a major issue for a savings account. It would have been great though, to use HSBC Direct as a central hub to transfer funds, thanks to the account’s unlimited account linking capability.

HSBC Direct’s APY rate is consistently competitive among other no fees, no minimum accounts. They have stay within the market’s rate, and at times have lead the pack. Although you are required to have $1+ to receive the current APR, unlike Emigrant Direct, your account at HSBC Direct will not be closed if the balance reaches $0. I’ve had $0 balance at HSBC without issue, but to be safe and avoid hassle, you should still leave a small amount in HSBC Direct.

If it wasn’t for the slow ACH transfer speed and a few other minor quirks such as the Security Key interface, HSBC Direct would be a pretty sweet high-yield online savings account. That said, HSBC Direct is still semi-sweet — like, kettle corn sweet.

Pros:

  • Competitive high-yield rate
  • No fee, no minimum, FDIC insured
  • Unlimited account linking
  • Decent account opening process
  • Functional, error-free site

Cons:

  • Slow ACH speed compare to competitors
  • Hassle access to ACH due to Security Key
  • Snail mail required for account opening
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