“I Don’t Need To Get a Job. I Don’t Need the Money!”
Posted by Cap in Even More Ramblings |As I uttered the line above to my friend, her eyes widen in disbelief.
“What do you mean you don’t need money?”
“Well, uh, you know,” I stammered, suddenly realized how stupid I sounded. “I make an okay amount of money on the side, I don’t think I really need a full time job right now.”
She shook her head in utter annoyance.
It’s been about an hour since we started the discussion about how I can at times be a flake, never committing 100% to school or work.
“You need to commit to one or the other,” the infinitely more matured friend told me. “You should just get a full-time job right now and better your working habits.”
Somewhere along the conversation, I clamor out the now forever brilliant line.
“I don’t need to get a job. I don’t need the money!”
In retrospect, this was probably another moment where I showcased my occasional twisted value system to my friend.
This conversation happened about two years ago, when I was floating around contract jobs along with part and full-time school. I was far from being a kid fresh out of high school, yet I still held some moronic beliefs at the time. The act of recounting this story has now induced about fifty involuntary facepalm.
In many ways, my friend was the complete opposite of me. She was extremely goal oriented, focus, and unwavering in regards to her academics and career. If you were to ask me about solid work ethic, I would promptly point you to my friend as a prime example.
My problem — if you can even call it that — was that I’ve never had a real issue with money. Now, don’t get me wrong, long time readers will remember that I’ve accumulated over $10,000 in credit card debt from buying crap. But I was able to wipe that debt out within a year with a mindset and spending habit change.
I was able to do this while in college, without a full-time job, and yes, without specifically asking for assistance from parents.
I’ve never fully elaborated in details on how I was able to pay down the debt through the years of running this blog, instead, I’ve focused mainly on spending habits and savings mindset — because I’ve always believed that my situation was not exactly replicable.
Back in 2002, I had an online business while I was a freshmen in college, selling miscellaneous car parts. The parts with the highest margin would cost under $20 for a hobbyist to buy, and it was a no-frills just-for-fun part.
I took a risk and pluck down about a thousand dollar to order the initial parts, built a website/storefront, and through word-of-mouth, banner ads here and there along with specific advertising on certain car forums, I was able to make a decent income from a decisively non-full time job.
I’ll wake up in the morning, see the orders and money in my PayPal account, and spend an hour each morning fulfilling orders, printing out shipping labels, packaging parts, and shipping them out. If you’ve ever wonder why I wrote a post about printing postage online from home, now you know why.
During my sophomore year, I got a job at Bank of America, working in back-end operations, processing checks etc. The shift was usually from 5 to 9 PM. I probably didn’t need the additional income at the time, but I thought it would be a good experience to get a job that required me to conform to a set schedule. I most likely would have kept working at the processing center through my time in college, had Bank of American not closed it down and laid all of us off.
This time period was when the crazy spending started. I had dual income. I was barely 21 years old, the money was rolling in and my priorities was all over the place.
Money was never a real problem for me. The problem wasn’t that I didn’t have any money, the problem was simply that I was spending more money than I was earning. Which luckily for me, was relatively easy to fix.
It was through this period, and other subsequent events that I developed a strange attitude of “not needing a job” and “not needing money.”
There’s no doubt that I was a spoiled brat. Through some amount of work, slight risk taking, and fortuitous timing, I’ve always been able to make money whenever the need arise.
Ever since I became conscious of my spending, I was able to pile my savings up whenever I have income. And when the income dries up for whatever reason? I just stopped spending. I was a college student. My tuition was paid for via grants and out of my own pockets. I didn’t have a mortgage, student loan, car payment, or any major financial responsibility. Money? Who needs money, I thought to myself.
“You’re giving me an ‘I-want-to-slap-you-silly’ look,” I told my friend after I uttered the infamous line.
“That’s because you’re a moron,” she said promptly. “You may not need the money, but what about your family?”
“Uh…”
“What about your mom? She’s been working for the past 30 years. She bought a house for your sister and you to grow up in. She’s still paying the mortgage off.”
“Um…”
“What about your sister? She bought a house during the peak of the housing bubble and is now struggling as the recession hits full on.”
“Er…”
“And what about your dad? He’s also been working for the past decades. I know you’ve never touch the money he sent you because you’ve set it aside, but maybe perchance he may need some help too?”
The New York Times recently published a piece about a Colgate University graduate named Scott, highlighting him somewhat as a sample of recent college graduates “struggling” to find a job. Readers promptly ripped Scott apart in the comments because he decided to pass up a $40,000 a year job as he believes the job may lead to a dead-end career path. With his degree from a high-end university, Scott expects a higher starting salary and a career path to match.
Scott, and at a time, myself, believed that we didn’t need just any job. That we didn’t need the money. Scott is amongst the fortunate minority that was able to finish school without debt, thanks to tuition and board paid by his grandparents. He has no overhead, no debt, and thus he believes it affords him flexibility in looking for work. While his perspective is understandable, especially considering his family is far from struggling financially, Scott’s attitude is telling.
Never before have there been a generation so vastly full of themselves. As a millennial, I’ve met a wide ranging group of people within my generation. Many of us are indeed spectacularly intelligent, full of drive, energy, and the know-how to change the world. But for every world-changer, there are hundreds of thousands of us that are just normal.
We’ve expected a lot, because some of us were told to expect a lot. We’ve dreamed big, because some of us were told the sky is the limit. If you’re holding out on a job, because you “don’t need the money” — because you don’t need that particular job, consider the fact there are thousands out there dying to get what was offered to you.
To be sure, there are many of us that have the option to choose, whether because of hard work or thanks to some fortunate luck-of-the draw, its the way the world works. Life certainly isn’t fair, and some of us are simply in a better situation. Its okay to go for your dreams and take advantage of any opportunities presented to you.
But if there’s any inkling that you may be sacrificing the livelihood of your family, of your parents, of your grandparents, of anyone that you may care about — you should step back and consider the situation fully. In one of the greatest recession of modern time, a little bit of humility and self reflection can go a long, long way.
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July 9th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Dance like noone’s watching. Love like you’ve never been hurt. Work like you don’t need the money.
It’s hard to say if you or your friend was more boneheaded. I guess if your parents paid your way through college, and then you never put that degree to use afterward, then that might be disrespectful towards your parents. But other than that… not having to work seems like a good goal!
July 9th, 2010 at 8:09 am
You are right, life is not fair. So why act like you should? It’s those who suppress their geniuses and act and behave for the sake of conformity that adds more sheep to the world, ready to be slaughtered by the wolves. It’s those who follow to their own beats and pursue their own decisions that adds to the shepherds, however few, among us.
July 9th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Steve: & Jonathan I was the bonehead in that particular situation. Probably should have clarified on how college was paid (through grants+scholarship and my own money from the various “jobs”). May edit the post later to clear it up a bit…
In regards to “work like you don’t need the money” — the problem was that I didn’t even do the “work” part, and that was the underlying point of the post, I suppose. Not all of us are “special” and sometimes we should just suck it up and contribute, especially when we’re able.
July 10th, 2010 at 3:11 am
In fairness, the fact that you were open about this speaks highly of who you are. Not so many people can readily admit that they made a mistake. That’s commendable.
July 11th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Interesting post.
Though I wouldn’t characterize you as a spoiled brat because you had a successful business venture. That’s just being rewarded for the risk you took.
July 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Your Mama didn’t suck it up and pay the mortgage so you can be stuck in a job you don’t like so you can suck it up for your kids. I’m also a millenial and as long as you’re supporting yourself and not milking off your parents I say hold out for your dream job, later on you might have to suck it up and get a “real” job but maybe if our parents hadn’t settled there’d be less mid life crises, fewer sports cars/harleys being sold and bosses getting it on with their secretaries
July 17th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
I have to say taking some time before I started a “real job” to pursue some dreams really worked out well for me. I eventually decided that my original plans were not what I really wanted, but the pursuit of those dreams lead me in even better directions.
July 29th, 2010 at 4:43 am
will you dont need be i do. mean all that big head
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July 31st, 2010 at 10:47 am
The way I look at it is that if you safeguard your money and live a simple life, that’s fine. No need to get a job if you don’t need one. If you expect someday to have a wife and kids, it may be appropriate to get a job now and save more because your priorities may change. But if you’ve chosen the life you want to life and you have enough money for that enjoy it.
When I choose who I give money to I do so wisely – I wrote a post about a family member who asked me for money – I said no. Why? One reason was because our money priorities were not the same. He asked for $$ to buy gifts. I don’t spend a lot on gifts. (I not-so-secretly have the same outlook when people smoke a pack or two a day and then complain they have no money! Don’t get me started!).
August 2nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
Good article! And some of the responses are great, too! (ie: 6.benjamin bankruptcy Says:
July 11th, 2010 at 7:36 pm) What a great observation!
I will make one comment though, on the writing/grammar skills in the article and in a number of the responses: Didn’t you people learn enough in your college years to express yourselves properly in writing? (comments 2,8 & 9) You might want to sharpen up your grammar if you DO want to land the job you want…. :o)
August 6th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
The whole point of a job is to get money, unless you enjoy it more than being unemployed. Why work if you don’t have/want to?
August 8th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Hi Cap,
Can you let us know how you got into the “Money Tips” network? Looks like a great list of bloggers to be associated with.
Was there a time you used to write a lot more?
Cheers, Sam
The Yakezie
August 10th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I just had my daughter graduate from college and she had 2 job offers…wouldn’t take either because $40K-or there about’s, just wasn’t enough money. She elected to go back to school for a Masters. I just don’t get it. Maybe life is just too easy-or maybe this is the new perspective. sigh…
August 10th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Although you may not “need” the money, there are other reasons to work”
- get experience
- accumulate wealth.
When you are older and have a family, I guarantee that you will look back and wish you had used the time to accumulate more wealth.
Having substatial assets in the bank (or wherever..) makes a big difference towards peace of mind.
August 12th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
SAFTM: Nicely put, agree 100%. At some point in time, if and when I choose to have a family, then certain financial responsibilities will come attached with that decision. Until then, as long as I’m not leeching on society or anyone, I think I can sleep well at night, whether or not I have a stable job.
rcevans: I skimmed the post again and spotted a few more errors, but I’m certain there’s more I missed. Unfortunately, I speak three languages and none of them fluently. Cursed world. I’ll probably get around to getting an editor once if I ever write frequently again.
Financial Samurai: Sorry for late response. If I remember right, it was from an invitation by the Wise Bread guys awhile back. But to answer your question, yes, there was a time where I use to write (a lot) more. Back in 2005 to 2007 was probably my peak writing time, until I took on other projects/school/work.
I think I’ve read a post you wrote a bit ago about how some blog networks seem exclusive and close-off-ish, where “A-list” hangs around each other, but generally I think people just congregate base on timing and fit. Some of us started before others, so we got to know each other more before some of the newer blogs.
Hope this answers your question and any subsequent ones, if you’re wondering why a random blog that barely has any content is part of some “big” blog networks (to be frank, there are many many new personal finance blogs that are miles ahead of me in terms of content, frequency, and quality).
August 12th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
regular guy: Actually I agree completely, and have since regretted the times I’ve spent being unproductive. The math simply works out the best no matter how you slice it, you’ll come out much further ahead if you start earning/saving while you’re young, vs. years later when the factor of time is lessen.
August 15th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Its nice when all the youngsters can live off Mom and Dads hard work. But enjoy it while it lasts. Because when you eventually have children, your kids are going to do to you, what your doing to them.
August 16th, 2010 at 1:56 am
It might be a better idea to focus on building up the auto parts business than to get a regular job. Self-employed people have always made more money on average than people who work for others. Also, in this economy, it can be very hard to find a job, and you never know how long it’s going to last even if you do find one.